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John Wieczorek tuco at berkeley.edu
Fri Jun 26 11:27:25 CEST 2015


I understand. Better documentation would go a long way toward avoiding such
problems in the future.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Dimitri Brosens <dimitri.brosens at inbo.be>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Well, I do understand your concern. what we choose has much to do with how
> we read (interpreted) the recommendations.
>
> "Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as the
> list of Darwin Core classes. Examples: "PreservedSpecimen",
> "FossilSpecimen", "LivingSpecimen", "HumanObservation",
> "MachineObservation". "
>
> I read examples, and the only term which is corrupted is (the one we
> invented, years ago already..) is "literatureObservation" which, in my
> thinking did follow the line of the examples. I did not figured out that
> event:text en basisOfRecord: occurrence would de. Also here, occurrence is
> not in the list...
>
> That is the reason, not because we wanted to do something contrary. :)
>
> Also, I have no problem in using controlled vocabularies, when they suit
> my need. And reading the DwC explanation is states "Recommended best
> practice is to use a controlled vocabulary "
>
> Chrs,
> Dimi
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:35 AM, John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> I understand on one hand, but on the other, why not follow the
>> recommendations to begin with, or make an effort to get them changed if
>> they did not suffice? Not trying to be snotty, just wondering.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Dimitri Brosens <dimitri.brosens at inbo.be
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> This means that everybody who used 'basisOfRecord' as defined in the
>>> Darwin Core (best to use controlled voc:)  and republishes data could reach
>>> this issue in IPT (enforced to use controlled voc)....  can encounter this
>>> problem. I don't know if I 'm happy with this. I need to change all the
>>> published data because we used literatureObservation whenever occurrences
>>> originated in literature... And it will eventually change the records which
>>> were published before...
>>>
>>> Chrs,
>>> Dimi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quite some time ago the Dublin Core type vocabulary and Darwin Core
>>>> type vocabulary were relegated to control distinct terms in Darwin Core.
>>>> This meant that Dublin Core type values were recommended only for
>>>> dcterms:type and not for basisOfRecord. Thus, a record of a camera trap
>>>> image would have dcterms:type=StillImage and
>>>> basisOfRecord=MachineObservation. Though the Darwin Core type vocabulary
>>>> was deprecated, the recommendation (and the strength of it) remains.
>>>> Following the recommendation (which GBIF's IPT implements and enforces),
>>>> non-standard values are not allowed.
>>>>
>>>> My recommendation for the non-standard basisOfRecord values is to
>>>> change to the following combinations:
>>>>
>>>> 'literatureObservation' - dcterms:type=Text,
>>>> basisOfRecord=HumanObservation
>>>> 'literature' - dcterms:type=Text basisOfRecord=Occurrence (if you can't
>>>> be more specific)
>>>> 'fieldObservation' - dcterms:type=Event, basisOfRecord=HumanObservation
>>>> 'unknown' - dcterms:type=null, basisOfRecord=Occurrence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Paul J. Morris <mole at morris.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> fieldObservation probably maps sanely onto HumanObservation.
>>>>>
>>>>> unknown maps sanely onto Occurrence "NOTE: this value is ambiguous and
>>>>> hence should only be used when the when the resource type is unknown"
>>>>>
>>>>> This type vocabulary doesn't include a sane type for data derived from
>>>>> the literature.  This type vocabulary claims to extend the Dublin Core
>>>>> type vocabulary, so data sourced from the literature should probably be
>>>>> able to map to Text http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text.  Whether IPT,
>>>>> on a technical level, treats the DarwinCore type vocabulary as an
>>>>> extension of the DublinCore type vocabulary and treats values from
>>>>> dcmitype as valid is another question.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:58:42 +0200
>>>>> Kyle Braak <kbraak at gbif.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Dear Dimitri,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To satisfy the IPT’s requirements, you can translate your source’s
>>>>> > values into values that match the Darwin Core Type vocabulary [1].
>>>>> > More information about the translation feature is available in the
>>>>> > mapping section of the user manual [2].
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>> > Kyle
>>>>> >
>>>>> > [1] http://rs.gbif.org/vocabulary/dwc/basis_of_record.xml
>>>>> > [2]
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://code.google.com/p/gbif-providertoolkit/wiki/IPT2ManualNotes?tm=6#Darwin_Core_Mappings
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 25 Jun 2015, at 16:21, Dimitri Brosens <dimitri.brosens at inbo.be>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Dear,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I was wondering, in DwC it is stated:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as
>>>>> > > the list of Darwin Core classes. Examples: "PreservedSpecimen",
>>>>> > > "FossilSpecimen", "LivingSpecimen", "HumanObservation",
>>>>> > > "MachineObservation". For discussion see
>>>>> > > http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/dwc:basisOfRecord
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > As far as I understand, this is not mandatory and we have been
>>>>> > > using terms which are not in the 'supposed' controlled vocabulary
>>>>> > > on the tdwg site....
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Publishing version #22.1 of resource
>>>>> > > belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences failed: Archive generation
>>>>> > > for resource belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences failed: Can't
>>>>> > > validate DwC-A for resource belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences.
>>>>> > > Each row in the occurrence file(s) must have a basisOfRecord, and
>>>>> > > each basisOfRecord must match the Darwin Core Type Vocabulary
>>>>> > > (please note comparisons are case insensitive) Continue to resource
>>>>> > > overview.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > My problem is that IPT refuses to republish my previously published
>>>>> > > datasets where we use terms like: 'literatureObservation' ,
>>>>> > > 'literature', fieldObservation or 'unknown
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > What to do?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Chrs,
>>>>> > > Dimi
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > --
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>>>>> > > Dimitri Brosens
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Biodiversity Research Liaison Officer
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>>>>> > > Research Institute for Nature and Forest
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>>>>> > > 1070 Brussels
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>>>
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>
>
> --
>
> Belgian Biodiversity Platform
>
> Dimitri Brosens
>
> Biodiversity Research Liaison Officer
>
> Research Institute for Nature and Forest
> Kliniekstraat 25
> 1070 Brussels
>
> ORCID: 0000-0002-0846-9116
>
> www.inbo.be
> www.biodiversity.be
> www.beescommunity.be
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>
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