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Dimitri Brosens
dimitri.brosens at inbo.be
Fri Jun 26 11:00:58 CEST 2015
Hi,
Well, I do understand your concern. what we choose has much to do with how
we read (interpreted) the recommendations.
"Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as the
list of Darwin Core classes. Examples: "PreservedSpecimen",
"FossilSpecimen", "LivingSpecimen", "HumanObservation",
"MachineObservation". "
I read examples, and the only term which is corrupted is (the one we
invented, years ago already..) is "literatureObservation" which, in my
thinking did follow the line of the examples. I did not figured out that
event:text en basisOfRecord: occurrence would de. Also here, occurrence is
not in the list...
That is the reason, not because we wanted to do something contrary. :)
Also, I have no problem in using controlled vocabularies, when they suit my
need. And reading the DwC explanation is states "Recommended best practice
is to use a controlled vocabulary "
Chrs,
Dimi
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:35 AM, John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu> wrote:
> I understand on one hand, but on the other, why not follow the
> recommendations to begin with, or make an effort to get them changed if
> they did not suffice? Not trying to be snotty, just wondering.
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Dimitri Brosens <dimitri.brosens at inbo.be>
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> This means that everybody who used 'basisOfRecord' as defined in the
>> Darwin Core (best to use controlled voc:) and republishes data could reach
>> this issue in IPT (enforced to use controlled voc).... can encounter this
>> problem. I don't know if I 'm happy with this. I need to change all the
>> published data because we used literatureObservation whenever occurrences
>> originated in literature... And it will eventually change the records which
>> were published before...
>>
>> Chrs,
>> Dimi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, John Wieczorek <tuco at berkeley.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Quite some time ago the Dublin Core type vocabulary and Darwin Core type
>>> vocabulary were relegated to control distinct terms in Darwin Core. This
>>> meant that Dublin Core type values were recommended only for dcterms:type
>>> and not for basisOfRecord. Thus, a record of a camera trap image would have
>>> dcterms:type=StillImage and basisOfRecord=MachineObservation. Though the
>>> Darwin Core type vocabulary was deprecated, the recommendation (and the
>>> strength of it) remains. Following the recommendation (which GBIF's IPT
>>> implements and enforces), non-standard values are not allowed.
>>>
>>> My recommendation for the non-standard basisOfRecord values is to change
>>> to the following combinations:
>>>
>>> 'literatureObservation' - dcterms:type=Text,
>>> basisOfRecord=HumanObservation
>>> 'literature' - dcterms:type=Text basisOfRecord=Occurrence (if you can't
>>> be more specific)
>>> 'fieldObservation' - dcterms:type=Event, basisOfRecord=HumanObservation
>>> 'unknown' - dcterms:type=null, basisOfRecord=Occurrence
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Paul J. Morris <mole at morris.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> fieldObservation probably maps sanely onto HumanObservation.
>>>>
>>>> unknown maps sanely onto Occurrence "NOTE: this value is ambiguous and
>>>> hence should only be used when the when the resource type is unknown"
>>>>
>>>> This type vocabulary doesn't include a sane type for data derived from
>>>> the literature. This type vocabulary claims to extend the Dublin Core
>>>> type vocabulary, so data sourced from the literature should probably be
>>>> able to map to Text http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text. Whether IPT,
>>>> on a technical level, treats the DarwinCore type vocabulary as an
>>>> extension of the DublinCore type vocabulary and treats values from
>>>> dcmitype as valid is another question.
>>>>
>>>> -Paul
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:58:42 +0200
>>>> Kyle Braak <kbraak at gbif.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Dear Dimitri,
>>>> >
>>>> > To satisfy the IPT’s requirements, you can translate your source’s
>>>> > values into values that match the Darwin Core Type vocabulary [1].
>>>> > More information about the translation feature is available in the
>>>> > mapping section of the user manual [2].
>>>> >
>>>> > Best regards,
>>>> > Kyle
>>>> >
>>>> > [1] http://rs.gbif.org/vocabulary/dwc/basis_of_record.xml
>>>> > [2]
>>>> >
>>>> https://code.google.com/p/gbif-providertoolkit/wiki/IPT2ManualNotes?tm=6#Darwin_Core_Mappings
>>>> >
>>>> > On 25 Jun 2015, at 16:21, Dimitri Brosens <dimitri.brosens at inbo.be>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Dear,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I was wondering, in DwC it is stated:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as
>>>> > > the list of Darwin Core classes. Examples: "PreservedSpecimen",
>>>> > > "FossilSpecimen", "LivingSpecimen", "HumanObservation",
>>>> > > "MachineObservation". For discussion see
>>>> > > http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/dwc:basisOfRecord
>>>> > >
>>>> > > As far as I understand, this is not mandatory and we have been
>>>> > > using terms which are not in the 'supposed' controlled vocabulary
>>>> > > on the tdwg site....
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Publishing version #22.1 of resource
>>>> > > belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences failed: Archive generation
>>>> > > for resource belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences failed: Can't
>>>> > > validate DwC-A for resource belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences.
>>>> > > Each row in the occurrence file(s) must have a basisOfRecord, and
>>>> > > each basisOfRecord must match the Darwin Core Type Vocabulary
>>>> > > (please note comparisons are case insensitive) Continue to resource
>>>> > > overview.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > My problem is that IPT refuses to republish my previously published
>>>> > > datasets where we use terms like: 'literatureObservation' ,
>>>> > > 'literature', fieldObservation or 'unknown
>>>> > >
>>>> > > What to do?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Chrs,
>>>> > > Dimi
>>>> > >
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>>>> > > Dimitri Brosens
>>>> > >
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>> Belgian Biodiversity Platform
>>
>> Dimitri Brosens
>>
>> Biodiversity Research Liaison Officer
>>
>> Research Institute for Nature and Forest
>> Kliniekstraat 25
>> 1070 Brussels
>>
>> ORCID: 0000-0002-0846-9116
>>
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Dimitri Brosens
Biodiversity Research Liaison Officer
Research Institute for Nature and Forest
Kliniekstraat 25
1070 Brussels
ORCID: 0000-0002-0846-9116
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www.biodiversity.be
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