<div dir="ltr">I understand. Better documentation would go a long way toward avoiding such problems in the future. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Dimitri Brosens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dimitri.brosens@inbo.be" target="_blank">dimitri.brosens@inbo.be</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Well, I do understand your concern. what we choose has much to do with how we read (interpreted) the recommendations.</div><span class=""><div><br></div><div>"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,'Arial Unicode MS',Helvetica,sans-serif">Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as the list of Darwin Core classes. Examples: "PreservedSpecimen", "FossilSpecimen", "LivingSpecimen", "HumanObservation", "MachineObservation".</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,'Arial Unicode MS',Helvetica,sans-serif"> "</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,'Arial Unicode MS',Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div></span><div><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif">I read examples, and the only term which is corrupted is (the one we invented, years ago already..) is "literatureObservation" which, in my thinking did follow the line of the examples. I did not figured out that event:text en basisOfRecord: occurrence would de. Also here, occurrence is not in the list...</font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is the reason, not because we wanted to do something contrary. :)</font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif">Also, I have no problem in using controlled vocabularies, when they suit my need. And reading the DwC explanation is states "</font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,'Arial Unicode MS',Helvetica,sans-serif">Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,'Arial Unicode MS',Helvetica,sans-serif"> "</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Verdana,Arial,'Arial Unicode MS',Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chrs,</font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Verdana, Arial, Arial Unicode MS, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dimi</font></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:35 AM, John Wieczorek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">tuco@berkeley.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I understand on one hand, but on the other, why not follow the recommendations to begin with, or make an effort to get them changed if they did not suffice? Not trying to be snotty, just wondering.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Dimitri Brosens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dimitri.brosens@inbo.be" target="_blank">dimitri.brosens@inbo.be</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>All,</div><div><br></div><div>This means that everybody who used 'basisOfRecord' as defined in the Darwin Core (best to use controlled voc:) and republishes data could reach this issue in IPT (enforced to use controlled voc).... can encounter this problem. I don't know if I 'm happy with this. I need to change all the published data because we used literatureObservation whenever occurrences originated in literature... And it will eventually change the records which were published before...</div><div><br></div><div>Chrs,</div><div>Dimi</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:56 PM, John Wieczorek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">tuco@berkeley.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Quite some time ago the Dublin Core type vocabulary and Darwin Core type vocabulary were relegated to control distinct terms in Darwin Core. This meant that Dublin Core type values were recommended only for dcterms:type and not for basisOfRecord. Thus, a record of a camera trap image would have dcterms:type=StillImage and basisOfRecord=MachineObservation. Though the Darwin Core type vocabulary was deprecated, the recommendation (and the strength of it) remains. Following the recommendation (which GBIF's IPT implements and enforces), non-standard values are not allowed. <div><br></div><div>My recommendation for the non-standard basisOfRecord values is to change to the following combinations:</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">'literatureObservation' - dcterms:type=Text, basisOfRecord=HumanObservation</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">'literature' - dcterms:type=Text basisOfRecord=Occurrence (if you can't be more specific)</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">'fieldObservation' - dcterms:type=Event, basisOfRecord=HumanObservation</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">'unknown' - dcterms:type=null, basisOfRecord=Occurrence</span><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Paul J. Morris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mole@morris.net" target="_blank">mole@morris.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">fieldObservation probably maps sanely onto HumanObservation.<br>
<br>
unknown maps sanely onto Occurrence "NOTE: this value is ambiguous and<br>
hence should only be used when the when the resource type is unknown"<br>
<br>
This type vocabulary doesn't include a sane type for data derived from<br>
the literature. This type vocabulary claims to extend the Dublin Core<br>
type vocabulary, so data sourced from the literature should probably be<br>
able to map to Text <a href="http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/Text</a>. Whether IPT,<br>
on a technical level, treats the DarwinCore type vocabulary as an<br>
extension of the DublinCore type vocabulary and treats values from<br>
dcmitype as valid is another question.<br>
<br>
-Paul<br>
<div><div><br>
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 16:58:42 +0200<br>
Kyle Braak <<a href="mailto:kbraak@gbif.org" target="_blank">kbraak@gbif.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Dear Dimitri,<br>
><br>
> To satisfy the IPT’s requirements, you can translate your source’s<br>
> values into values that match the Darwin Core Type vocabulary [1].<br>
> More information about the translation feature is available in the<br>
> mapping section of the user manual [2].<br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
> Kyle<br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="http://rs.gbif.org/vocabulary/dwc/basis_of_record.xml" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://rs.gbif.org/vocabulary/dwc/basis_of_record.xml</a><br>
> [2]<br>
> <a href="https://code.google.com/p/gbif-providertoolkit/wiki/IPT2ManualNotes?tm=6#Darwin_Core_Mappings" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://code.google.com/p/gbif-providertoolkit/wiki/IPT2ManualNotes?tm=6#Darwin_Core_Mappings</a><br>
><br>
> On 25 Jun 2015, at 16:21, Dimitri Brosens <<a href="mailto:dimitri.brosens@inbo.be" target="_blank">dimitri.brosens@inbo.be</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Dear,<br>
> ><br>
> > I was wondering, in DwC it is stated:<br>
> ><br>
> > Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as<br>
> > the list of Darwin Core classes. Examples: "PreservedSpecimen",<br>
> > "FossilSpecimen", "LivingSpecimen", "HumanObservation",<br>
> > "MachineObservation". For discussion see<br>
> > <a href="http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/dwc:basisOfRecord" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/dwc:basisOfRecord</a><br>
> ><br>
> > As far as I understand, this is not mandatory and we have been<br>
> > using terms which are not in the 'supposed' controlled vocabulary<br>
> > on the tdwg site....<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Publishing version #22.1 of resource<br>
> > belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences failed: Archive generation<br>
> > for resource belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences failed: Can't<br>
> > validate DwC-A for resource belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences.<br>
> > Each row in the occurrence file(s) must have a basisOfRecord, and<br>
> > each basisOfRecord must match the Darwin Core Type Vocabulary<br>
> > (please note comparisons are case insensitive) Continue to resource<br>
> > overview.<br>
> ><br>
> > My problem is that IPT refuses to republish my previously published<br>
> > datasets where we use terms like: 'literatureObservation' ,<br>
> > 'literature', fieldObservation or 'unknown<br>
> ><br>
> > What to do?<br>
> ><br>
> > Chrs,<br>
> > Dimi<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Belgian Biodiversity Platform<br>
> ><br>
> > Dimitri Brosens<br>
> ><br>
> > Biodiversity Research Liaison Officer<br>
> ><br>
> > Research Institute for Nature and Forest<br>
> > Kliniekstraat 25<br>
> > 1070 Brussels<br>
> ><br>
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> ><br>
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Liaison Officer</span></p>
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