[IPT] digir/tapirlink useful features ...

["Markus Döring (GBIF)"]

Andre,
the main reason for preferring dwca at the source over a querying protocol like digir, tapir & biocase is simply performance and higher availability due to far less time needed for downloading an archive versus paging through the whole dataset.

Markus



On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:08, Andre Heughebaert wrote:

> David,
> 
> Is'nt it a feature of the HIT to harvest all records from a GBIF resource (Digir, Biocase, Tapir,...) and build a DwC Archive.
> If this is the case, I don't see the point of adding it to TapirLink.
> Or did I missed something?
> 
> My2Cents,
> Andre
> 
> On 11/02/11 09:53, David Remsen (GBIF) wrote:
>> I think that is a great idea.  Who was the developer of TapirLink?
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Hannu Saarenmaa wrote:
>> 
>>> This querying functionality is indeed available in Tapirlink, which is a solid and proven data provider package.
>>> 
>>> However, this thread makes me think that also Tapirlink could be enhanced to support harvesting by Darwin Core archive, similar to IPT.  I mean, often users want to bulk download the whole resource.  I just had such a question the other day. This would probably speed up GBIF data portal harvesting process greatly.
>>> 
>>> As an existing Tapirlink provider, we are unlikely to migrate to IPT. But we could upgrade Tapirlink to a version that supports Darwin Core archiving.
>>> 
>>> Please allow me to suggest that GBIF order this enhancement to Tapirlink.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Hannu
>>> 
>>> On 2011-02-09 5:52, Tim Robertson wrote:
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> In the IPT there is 1 directory (the data directory) that you can copy
>>>> to a new machine to migrate an installation.  The admin should also
>>>> back up this directory periodically for disaster recovery purposes.
>>>> 
>>>> You are correct in understanding the IPT 2.0, in that it does not
>>>> support ad-hoc querying.  There are many potential development
>>>> directions for the IPT, and during 2011 we will open up a wider
>>>> discussion amongst the IPT users to determine the best approach.
>>>> There are tools that do ad hoc querying so perhaps it is not the best
>>>> direction for the IPT, and the IPT would be better placed at
>>>> integrating quality control  routines and annotation consumption for
>>>> example.  It will not be possible to satisfy all the diverse
>>>> requirements on minimum hardware, simplicity, performance,
>>>> functionality and scale without some compromises somewhere - this is
>>>> where we need to do a good needs assessment as things develop.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/9/11, Herbario SANT 
>>>> <sant.herbarium at gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> One more question regarding digir/tapirlink versus IPT:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was possible to launch direct xml queries to them, so I could
>>>>> construct a web server to show inventories or specific searches of an
>>>>> specific data provider. How can I do this with IPT? I haven't looked
>>>>> in detail but I guess the only way to get data from IPT is downloading
>>>>> full datasets
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nobody else has requested this feature?
>>>>> Would it be possible to have something like this built in IPT, without
>>>>> reducing IPT performance a lot? (even with a different technic but
>>>>> similar client interface services):
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://tapirlink.berkeley.edu/tapir_client.php
>>>>> http://algae.manoa.hawaii.edu/database/lib/tapirlink/www/tapir_client.php
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for your answers
>>>>> David
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Herbario SANT
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