Canonical name of subgenus and species under a subgenus
Hi,
A verbatim record of a sugenus http://api.gbif.org/v1/species/100969508/verbatim results in a name usage record http://api.gbif.org/v1/species/100969508 where genus name, instead of subgenus name, treated as the canonical name.
I suspect it is issue at the data sorurce, because Ficus (Diconoficus) is the generic part of species name under the subgenus such as Ficus (Diconoficus) gayana but never a subgenus name itself. Looking at species record under the subgenus, however, e.g. http://api.gbif.org/v1/species/100969511/verbatim http://api.gbif.org/v1/species/100969511 gives Ficus gayana as the canonical name. This interpretation, i.e. omitting subgenus part from a canonical name, might be issue of data parsing.
Or, is it an extpected client task to check verbatim records also?
Regards, James
Looks like the issue is with GBIF’s handling of data, rather than the data source itself.
For the subgenus we have http://api.gbif.org/v1/species/100969508:
"scientificName":"Ficus (Diconoficus)”, "canonicalName":”Ficus”, "authorship":" (Diconoficus)”
so the subgenus has mistakenly been treated as the authorship of the name.
For the species, GBIF ignores subgenera and so regards Ficus gayana as the canonical name.
Regards
Rod
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On 31 Jan 2016, at 23:32, Nozomi James Ytow <nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jpmailto:nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:
Diconoficus
Hi, this indeed is a problem of our name parser. Actually this is a rather tricky problem as a zoological subgenus notation using brackets is nearly impossible to tell apart from a genus name with an original author.
We refactored the name parser some time ago to take the rank of a name into account to be able to differ between those 2 options: http://dev.gbif.org/issues/browse/POR-2624
But it seems we have some outdated data hanging around here. The parser returns the correct canonical even without the rank given: http://api.gbif.org/v1/parser/name?name=Ficus%20(Diconoficus)
Ill try to reparse all names in checklist bank.
Markus
On 01 Feb 2016, at 09:22, Roderic Page <Roderic.Page@glasgow.ac.ukmailto:Roderic.Page@glasgow.ac.uk> wrote:
Looks like the issue is with GBIF’s handling of data, rather than the data source itself.
For the subgenus we have http://api.gbif.org/v1/species/100969508:
"scientificName":"Ficus (Diconoficus)”, "canonicalName":”Ficus”, "authorship":" (Diconoficus)”
so the subgenus has mistakenly been treated as the authorship of the name.
For the species, GBIF ignores subgenera and so regards Ficus gayana as the canonical name.
Regards
Rod
--------------------------------------------------------- Roderic Page Professor of Taxonomy Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine College of Medical, Veterinary and Life Sciences Graham Kerr Building University of Glasgow Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK
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On 31 Jan 2016, at 23:32, Nozomi James Ytow <nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jpmailto:nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:
Diconoficus
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From: Roderic Page Roderic.Page@glasgow.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 08:22:49 +0000
Looks like the issue is with GBIF's handling of data, rather than the data source itself.
Is it? Scientific name of the subgenus is Diconoficus, isn't it? ICZN Article 6.1 says:
6.1. Names of subgenera. The scientific name of a subgenus, when used with a binomen or trinomen, must be interpolated in parentheses between the generic name and the specific name; it is not counted as one of the words in the binomen or trinomen. It must begin with an upper-case letter.
It imiles that Ficus (Diconoficus) could be a scientific name only as a part of binomen or trinomen, e.g. Ficus (Diconoficus) gayana. 'Ficus (Diconoficus)' alone cannot be a scientific name of subgenus.
Interpretaion of '(Diconoficus)' as authority could be defandable because sugensus name with parentheses shouldn't be there without species epithet.
Regards, James
Oops.
From: Nozomi "James" Ytow nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jp Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 20:36:53 +0900 (JST)
It imiles that Ficus (Diconoficus) could be a scientific name only as a part of binomen or trinomen, e.g. Ficus (Diconoficus) gayana.
It implies, I meant.
James
Hi James,
unfortunately 6.1 only applies if the subgenus is part of a bi/trinonmial. If the name itself IS the subgenus it is apparenlty valid. For sure its common practice even for recently published names: http://zoobank.org/NomenclaturalActs/45E20811-FEC5-4DBF-B7CB-D39AC32A8BFF
Markus
On 01 Feb 2016, at 12:42, Nozomi James Ytow <nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jpmailto:nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote:
Oops.
From: Nozomi "James" Ytow <nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jpmailto:nozomi@biol.tsukuba.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 20:36:53 +0900 (JST)
It imiles that Ficus (Diconoficus) could be a scientific name only as a part of binomen or trinomen, e.g. Ficus (Diconoficus) gayana.
It implies, I meant.
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Hi Markus,
unfortunately 6.1 only applies if the subgenus is part of a bi/trinonmial.
Article 6.1 says that "the scientific name of a subgenus ... must be interpolated in parentheses ..." which implies that what between parentheses of ariticle 6.1 style name is the scientific name of a subgenus. See Aritcle 4.1 also where names higher than species group are requied to be uninomen.
If the name itself IS the subgenus it is apparenlty valid. For sure its common practice even for recently published names: http://zoobank.org/NomenclaturalActs/45E20811-FEC5-4DBF-B7CB-D39AC32A8BFF
ICZN glossary says as
interpolated name A name placed within parentheses (1) after a generic name to denote a subgenus, (2) after a genus-group name to denote an aggregate of species, or (3) after a specific name to denote an aggregate of subspecies [Art. 6]. Names used in this way are not counted as one of the names in a binomen or trinomen.
I interprete it as Amphiglossus (Brygooscincus) denotes the subgenus Brygooscincus where Brygooscincus is the subgenereic name, It is a common practice, rather than a secientific name.
On page 66 of the publication http://www.smuggled.com/AJHI28-29.pdf which is the source of given ZooBank record uses "SUBGENUS BRYGOOSCINCUS SUBGEN. NOV." on the section title, and the description starts with "The subgenus of Amphiglossus Brygooscincus subgen. nov." The author uses subgenereic name Brygooscincus in parentheses only as species name.
Note that the ZooBank recored's spelling attribute is Brygooscincus.
James
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