David,

Is'nt it a feature of the HIT to harvest all records from a GBIF resource (Digir, Biocase, Tapir,...) and build a DwC Archive.
If this is the case, I don't see the point of adding it to TapirLink.
Or did I missed something?

My2Cents,
Andre

On 11/02/11 09:53, David Remsen (GBIF) wrote:
I think that is a great idea.  Who was the developer of TapirLink?

On Feb 10, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Hannu Saarenmaa wrote:

This querying functionality is indeed available in Tapirlink, which is a solid and proven data provider package.

However, this thread makes me think that also Tapirlink could be enhanced to support harvesting by Darwin Core archive, similar to IPT.  I mean, often users want to bulk download the whole resource.  I just had such a question the other day. This would probably speed up GBIF data portal harvesting process greatly.

As an existing Tapirlink provider, we are unlikely to migrate to IPT. But we could upgrade Tapirlink to a version that supports Darwin Core archiving.

Please allow me to suggest that GBIF order this enhancement to Tapirlink.

Regards, Hannu

On 2011-02-09 5:52, Tim Robertson wrote:
Hi David,

In the IPT there is 1 directory (the data directory) that you can copy
to a new machine to migrate an installation.  The admin should also
back up this directory periodically for disaster recovery purposes.

You are correct in understanding the IPT 2.0, in that it does not
support ad-hoc querying.  There are many potential development
directions for the IPT, and during 2011 we will open up a wider
discussion amongst the IPT users to determine the best approach.
There are tools that do ad hoc querying so perhaps it is not the best
direction for the IPT, and the IPT would be better placed at
integrating quality control  routines and annotation consumption for
example.  It will not be possible to satisfy all the diverse
requirements on minimum hardware, simplicity, performance,
functionality and scale without some compromises somewhere - this is
where we need to do a good needs assessment as things develop.

Best wishes,
Tim








On 2/9/11, Herbario SANT <sant.herbarium@gmail.com> wrote:
...

One more question regarding digir/tapirlink versus IPT:

It was possible to launch direct xml queries to them, so I could
construct a web server to show inventories or specific searches of an
specific data provider. How can I do this with IPT? I haven't looked
in detail but I guess the only way to get data from IPT is downloading
full datasets

Nobody else has requested this feature?
Would it be possible to have something like this built in IPT, without
reducing IPT performance a lot? (even with a different technic but
similar client interface services):
http://tapirlink.berkeley.edu/tapir_client.php
http://algae.manoa.hawaii.edu/database/lib/tapirlink/www/tapir_client.php

Thanks for your answers
David

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