Tim, 

Thanks, I should have thought of that!  

Cheers, Scott

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Tim Robertson <trobertson@gbif.org> wrote:
Hi Scott

Occurrence record fields are elastic - we support the full DwC, but can only render from GBIF.org what is shared by the data publisher.

So that field will only appear on records where it is present - here is an example of a single record:
  http://api.gbif.org/v1/occurrence/675943831

That record above is the interpreted view of the verbatim content we observed from the source:
  http://api.gbif.org/v1/occurrence/675943831/verbatim

It is also returned in a search (same dataset as record above):
  http://api.gbif.org/v1/occurrence/search?datasetKey=b6015b60-6f96-43a9-88e5-2f41854e8f07

I hope this helps,
Tim




On 07 Oct 2014, at 20:48, Scott Chamberlain <scott@ropensci.org> wrote:

Hmmm...I don't see establishmentMeans anywhere in the returned data from the /occurrence . I do see documentation on it, endpoint https://code.google.com/p/darwincore/wiki/Occurrence#establishmentMeans, but is it included in data output anywhere? Maybe called something else?

S

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Scott Chamberlain <scott@ropensci.org> wrote:
Alex, 

Thanks, that's a good idea. I was thinking that there are a finite number of botanical gardens, so I could simply collect coordinates for each of them, and a reasonable bounding box around each one perhaps. 

Scott

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Alex Thompson <godfoder@acis.ufl.edu> wrote:
Also not something that can be done via the API, but botanical gardens
will also tend to be fairly large locality outliers (large numbers of
extremely tightly clustered points from relatively diverse taxa). Often,
I've found, many gardens are all geo-referenced to a single reference
locality, so you don't even need to do a bounding box filter, you can
just filter out specific points.

- Alex

On 10/07/2014 10:47 AM, Tim Robertson wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> There is actually no easy way of doing this.  Filtering out BasisOfRecord=LivingSpecimen would get you some of the way there, and looking into the establishmentMeans a step further, but the some of the data just don’t have fields to filter them out.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
>
> On 07 Oct 2014, at 03:00, Scott Chamberlain <myrmecocystus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Someone brought up recently whether or not they could exclude observations from botanical gardens in GBIF occurrence searches. I think they meant just occurrences from within actual gardens, not observations from more natural areas in a database provided by a botanical garden.
>>
>> Is something like this already flagged as an issue in the occurrence issue enum? I didn't see it myself. I guess one could find the data providers that are botanical gardens and exclude those if they are in the search results.
>>
>> Thanks for any guidance.
>>
>> Cheers, Scott Chamberlain
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