<div dir="ltr">I would say to feel free to add to the comments in the GitHub issue, but don't neglect taking the conversation openly to tdwg-content. That's where these things get discussed in the community, not GitHub issues.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Mergen Patricia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:patricia.mergen@africamuseum.be" target="_blank">patricia.mergen@africamuseum.be</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have created an issues # 99 here :
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">from the mails exchanges, it seems that this affects several providers and has wider implications then the point raised by Dimitri. I have not assigned the
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [IPT] basisOfRecord values<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, indeed such discussion belongs to the TDWG list. To open the thread we'd need some background of earlier discussions on basisOfRecord. It is one of the oldest terms and wasn't it even mandatory at some point. If I remember right,
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dimitri brings up an important issue. I think this whole list of allowable values of basisOfRecord needs to be thought over. The available controlled values do not meet the needs of earth observation, where we work with quantitative data.<br>
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My working list of values looks like below. Each of them also requires an individualCount, if possible:<br>
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1. Sighting (of live individuals from a distance, without intervention from an observer)<br>
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3. Monitoring (part of a scheme, where all individuals have been counted, resulting in a quantitative estimate of abundance, and lack of related record means abscence)<br>
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Ideally, the protocol is also described in more detail for the entire dataset, in an EML document. That applies in particular for Monitoring data, where we may be reasoning about abscence.
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I do not list specimens above. Specimens may be preserved as evidence of observation and monitoring. (It is understood that a specimen record implies an occurrence.) Literature records and photographs are similar, as they may link to any of the above categories.<br>
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Would it make sense to split basisOfRecord into two terms, which are "occurrenceType" and "evidenceType"?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Recommended best practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such as the list of Darwin Core classes. Examples: "PreservedSpecimen", "FossilSpecimen", "LivingSpecimen", "HumanObservation",
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