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    Yes, indeed such discussion belongs to the TDWG list.   To open the
    thread we'd need some background of earlier discussions on
    basisOfRecord. It is one of the oldest terms and wasn't it even
    mandatory at some point.   If I remember right, related questions of
    the purpose of this term have been discussed earlier.<br>
    <br>
    Hannu<br>
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    On 2015-06-26 11:37, John Wieczorek wrote:
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      <div dir="ltr">It might make sense to split the term, but I think
        that discussion has to take place in the context of the Darwin
        Core rather than on the IPT mailing list, no?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Hannu
          Saarenmaa <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:hannu.saarenmaa@helsinki.fi" target="_blank">hannu.saarenmaa@helsinki.fi</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Dimitri brings up an
              important issue.   I think this whole list of allowable
              values of basisOfRecord needs to be thought over. The
              available controlled values do not meet the needs of earth
              observation, where we work with quantitative data.<br>
              <br>
              My working list of values looks like below.  Each of them
              also requires an individualCount, if possible:<br>
              <br>
              1. Sighting (of live individuals from a distance, without
              intervention from an observer)<br>
              <br>
              2. Observation (of captured, verified individuals, but no
              particular sampling scheme)<br>
              <br>
              3. Monitoring (part of a scheme, where all individuals
              have been counted, resulting in a quantitative estimate of
              abundance, and lack of related record means abscence)<br>
              <br>
              Ideally, the protocol is also described in more detail for
              the entire dataset, in an EML document.  That applies in
              particular for Monitoring data, where we may be reasoning
              about abscence. <br>
              <br>
              I do not list specimens above.  Specimens may be preserved
              as evidence of observation and monitoring. (It is
              understood that a specimen record implies an occurrence.) 
              Literature records and photographs are similar, as they
              may link to any of the above categories.<br>
              <br>
              Would it make sense to split basisOfRecord into two terms,
              which are "occurrenceType" and "evidenceType"?<br>
              <br>
              - Hannu<br>
              <br>
              On 2015-06-25 17:21, Dimitri Brosens wrote:
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                <div dir="ltr">Dear,
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                  <div>I was wondering, in DwC it is stated: </div>
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                  <div><b><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                        Verdana,Arial,'Arial Unicode
                        MS',Helvetica,sans-serif;">Recommended best
                        practice is to use a controlled vocabulary such
                        as the list of Darwin Core classes. Examples:
                        "PreservedSpecimen", "FossilSpecimen",
                        "LivingSpecimen", "HumanObservation",
                        "MachineObservation". For discussion see </span><a
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                        href="http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/dwc:basisOfRecord"
                        style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family:
                        Verdana,Arial,'Arial Unicode
                        MS',Helvetica,sans-serif;" target="_blank">http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/dwc:basisOfRecord</a></b><br>
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                    <div>As far as I understand, this is not mandatory
                      and we have been using terms which are not in the
                      'supposed' controlled vocabulary on the tdwg
                      site....</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>
                      <div>Publishing version #22.1 of resource
                        belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences failed:
                        Archive generation for resource
                        belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences failed:
                        Can't validate DwC-A for resource
                        belgian-coccinellidae-inbo-occurrences. Each row
                        in the occurrence file(s) must have a
                        basisOfRecord, and each basisOfRecord must match
                        the Darwin Core Type Vocabulary (please note
                        comparisons are case insensitive)</div>
                      <div>Continue to resource overview.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>My problem is that IPT refuses to republish
                        my previously published datasets where we use
                        terms like: 'literatureObservation' ,
                        'literature', fieldObservation or 'unknown</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>What to do?</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Chrs,</div>
                      <div>Dimi</div>
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