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    I think it is more important to fix this at registry than at IPT.&nbsp;
    If it is done at registry,&nbsp; it will also work for other types of
    providers in one go.<br>
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    Hannu<br>
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    On 2010-09-15 14:37, Tim Robertson (GBIF) wrote:
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      type="cite">I missed this one in my previous response,
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      <div>This relates to the endorsement model employed in GBIF.
        &nbsp;Currently a Node is required to endorse an Institution, after
        which any resources made available through that institution are
        automatically picked up and indexed in the global portal.</div>
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      <div>This discussion actually goes beyond the scope of the IPT,
        and into the Registry as Dag and Hannu hint at. &nbsp;For the
        purposes of the IPT, I believe the proposed functionality of&nbsp;<b>"</b>a)
        The preference would be to allow the ADMIN to provide
        Registration privileges to individual MANAGERS " would satisfy
        the level of control needed in an IPT installation, but that we
        need to consider the cascading endorsement model further in the
        registry - e.g. when a node manager endorses an Institution,
        should subsequent datasets be automatically detected and
        harvested, or should a Node manager be offered that fine grained
        control.</div>
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      <div>If my understanding above captures this correctly, could I
        please propose that the IPT ADMIN/MANAGER level control is
        resolved, but this requirement be captured for the Registry
        development? &nbsp;Your advice on this is greatly appreciated!</div>
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      <div>Thanks,</div>
      <div>Tim</div>
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            <div>On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Hannu Saarenmaa wrote:</div>
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                  Tahoma,Verdana,sans-serif;">Both of these suggestions
                  will probably work fine. But controlling things at the
                  registry as Dag suggest might be more powerful.&nbsp; I
                  just want to be able to check in advance what
                  resources gets listed on Data Portal for our
                  institution.&nbsp; Blocking publishing at IPT may not
                  achieve this, if there are multiple servers, like
                  there is.<br>
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                  Hannu<br>
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                  On 2010-09-15 10:56, Dag Terje Filip Endresen wrote:
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                    <div style="text-align: left;">Hi Tim and Hannu,<br>
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                      Would it be useful to register this setting for
                      the data provider to the GBRDS - so that the NODE
                      can set a "default" permission that will allow the
                      data provider to install an independent IPT
                      instance to publish from if they wish to. So that
                      the data hosting center can host datasets from
                      distributed data providers that themselves may
                      want to "upgrade" to have their own IPT later on.
                      The NODE admin could thus get an overview of
                      resources endorsed by the NODE from the GBRDS...?<br>
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                      Cheers<br>
                      Dag<br>
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                      <hr><b>From:</b><span
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                      Robertson (GBIF) [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      <b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a
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                      <b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wed,
                      15 Sep 2010 09:43:28 +0200<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[IPT]
                      Functionality request: ADMIN checking data before
                      GBIF registration<br>
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                      Hi all,<br>
                      <br>
                      Hannu has raised a request for the following to be
                      satisfied by the IPT:<br>
                      "- Publishing a resource must be accepted by the
                      owner of the<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
                      provider. It has happened that a test user
                      publishes something odd<span
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                      which goes all the way to the data portal without
                      nobody controlling<span
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                      it."<br>
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                      This is a contradiction to the requests of others,
                      and specifically<span
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                      those wishing to promote basic "data hosting
                      centers", who request<span
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                      that a data MANAGER should be able to work
                      autonomously.<br>
                      <br>
                      After discussion with the developers the proposal
                      is to implement the<span
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                      following, which we hope satisfies both
                      requirements:<br>
                      In the Administration section, an ADMIN can choose
                      to enable or<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>
                      disable the ability for MANAGERS to register
                      resources with GBIF. By<span
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                      default MANAGERS can register a resource, but an
                      ADMIN can disable<span
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                      this through this check box.<br>
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                      If anyone has any concerns or comments on this
                      approach, please can<span
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                      you raise them on this list?<br>
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                      Many thanks,<br>
                      Tim<br>
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Hannu Saarenmaa
Head of Unit for Biodiversity Informatics
(yli-intendentti, lajitietotiimi)
Finnish Museum of Natural History
P.O. Box 17 (P.Rautatiekatu 13)
FIN-00014 University of Helsinki

<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hannu.saarenmaa@helsinki.fi">hannu.saarenmaa@helsinki.fi</a>
Telephone +358-9-191-28688
Mobile +358-50-3102689
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Hannu Saarenmaa
Head of Unit for Biodiversity Informatics
(yli-intendentti, lajitietotiimi)
Finnish Museum of Natural History
P.O. Box 17 (P.Rautatiekatu 13)
FIN-00014 University of Helsinki

<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hannu.saarenmaa@helsinki.fi">hannu.saarenmaa@helsinki.fi</a>
Telephone +358-9-191-28688
Mobile +358-50-3102689
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gbif.fi/">http://www.gbif.fi/</a>
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