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<div id="AppleMailSignature">That sounds like a fun project!</div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Can you please describe your grid / cells? </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">Most likely your best bet will be to use the download API (as CSV data) and ingest that. The other APIs will likely hit limits (e.g. You can't page through indefinitely).<br>
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On 31 May 2016, at 18:55, Juan M. Escamilla Molgora <<a href="mailto:j.escamillamolgora@lancaster.ac.uk">j.escamillamolgora@lancaster.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Thank you very much for your valuable feedback!</p>
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<p>I'll explain a bit what I'm doing just to clarify, sorry if this spam to some.</p>
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<p>I want to build a model for species assemblages based on co-occurrence of taxa within an arbitrary area. I'm building a 2D lattice in which for each cell I'm collapsing the data into a taxonomic tree (the occurrences). For doing this I need first to obtain
the data from the gbif api and later, based on the ids (or names) of each taxonomic level (from kingdom to occurrence) build a tree coupled to each cell.
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<p>The implementation is done with postgresql (postgis) for storing the raw gbif data and neo4j for storing the relation
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<p>"Being a member of the [ specie, genus, family,,,] [name/id]" The idea is to include data from different sources similar to the project Matthew and Jennifer had mentioned (which I'm very interested and like to hear more) and traverse the network looking
for significant merged information. <br>
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<p>One of the immediate problems I've found is to import big chunks of the gbif data into my specification. Thanks to this thread I've found the tools that are the most used by the community (pygbif,rgbif, and python-dwca-reader). I was using urlib2 and things
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<p>I'll be happy to share any code or ideas with the people interested.</p>
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<p>Btw, I've checked the tinkerpop project which uses the Gremlin traversal language as independent from the DBMS.
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<p>Perhaps it's possible to use it with spark and Guoda as well?</p>
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<p>Does GOuda is working now?</p>
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<p>Jorrit pointed out this thread to us at iDigBio. Downloading and importing data into a relational database will work great, especially if as Jan said you can cut the data size down to a reasonable amount.<br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Another approach we've been working on in a collaboration called GUODA [1] is to build an Apache Spark environment with pre-formatted data frames with common data sets in them for researchers to use. This approach would offer
a remote service where you could write arbitrary Spark code, probably in Jupyter notebooks, to iterate over data. Spark does a lot of cool stuff including GraphX which might be of interest. This is </span>definitely pre-alpha at this point and if anyone is
interested, I'd like to hear your thoughts.<span style="font-size: 12pt;"> I'll also be at SPNHC talking about this.</span></p>
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<p>One thing we've found in working on this is that importing data into a structured data format isn't always easy. If you only want a few columns, it'll be fine. But getting the data typing, format standardization, and column name syntax of the whole width
of an iDigBio record right requires some code. <span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
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I looked to see if </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,
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[2] had a GBIF data source and they have an eBird o</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">ne that perhaps you might find useful as a</span> starting point if
you wanted to try to use someone else's code to download and import data.<br>
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<p>For other data structures like BHL, we're kind of making stuff up since we're packaging a relational structure and not something nearly as flat as GBIF and DWC stuff.
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<div class="">Interesting request below on the GBIF mailing list - sounds like a perfect fit for the GUODA use cases. </div>
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color:rgb(31,73,125)">Unfortunately we have no tool for creating these kind of SQL like queries to the portal. I am sure you are aware that the filters in the occurrence search pages
can be applied in combination in numerous ways. The API can go even further in this regard[1], but it not well suited for retrieving occurrence records since there is a 200.000 records ceiling making it unfit for species exceeding this number.</span></div>
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species can be used as a query parameter as well as adding polygons.[3]</span></div>
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color:rgb(31,73,125)">In the meantime, Mauro’s suggestion is excellent. If you can narrow your search down until it returns a manageable download (say less than 100 million records),
importing this into a database should be doable. From there, you can refine using SQL queries.</span></div>
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One solution I have successfully adopted for this is to download the records (either "manually" via browser or, yet better, using a Python script using the fine pygbif library), storing them into a MySQL or SQLite database and then perform the relational queries.
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Is there any API for making relational queries like taxonomy, location or timestamp?<br class="">
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